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Message 1837 (29. Jun. 2006 22:12) (Tree)

Sender:	irene
Subject:	More Equpment Advice
Content:	Get these from Rollergirl. Best thing so far, unless you make your own. http://www.rollergirl.ca/usdcart/product_info.php/products_id/71 The old ones break (3 stacked, still broke) and are too narrow and didn't grind well. They are jump bars for rollerskate plates, not meant for grinding. I'd like to have plastic sliders for pool coping. The metal works fine for regular coping. ---------------------------------- : Irene, : : I like that cross bar or sliding bar. Whatever it is called. I have little cross bars that have molded to my plates. What are the ones on your skates? I would love to get something strong that will not give in. In my new journey I would like to start doing plate slides. Any advice?
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Robert: More Equpment Advice (28. Jun. 2006 01:43)
	For all of the years I skated, I never really knew anything about equiptment. When times got rough and there were no places to buy skates, I just picked up anything that looked good. My skates are at least 14 years old. I have a Reidell RS 1000 bood and Magnum yellow plates. Can anyone tell me what might be comparable? I see the prices vary from $149 to $599. I am just looking for something that will give me the same quality as what I have now. I saw that my plates are gong for $125 right now. I am thinking I can keep them until I break them and just get a boot. Anyone have any advice? I don't want to spend a lot of money untill I get back to my old skill level. Does anyone know anything about the Carerra boot? Rollergirl has some cool skates for $299. Has anyone tried them? I think I will keep my plate and everything else until I spend some time out there. I welcome all advice because I don't know about the equiptment today and really never have. I would like some slide bars, but I am used to a little jump bar that has gotten bent to the plate and that is where I do footplants and plate stalls. Or at least I used to. Also, I have seen a lot of pics that are awesome, but am wondering why nobody does front or back flips anymore? We used to call them Miller Flips and the front flip had a skateboard name that I can't remember. While on inlines I started doing a brainless, which is like a Mctwist, but you do a back flip and turn during and land frontwards. I also started doing some 540 McTwists, but then they screwed up my back flip. Thanks, Robert
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Robert: More Equpment Advice (28. Jun. 2006 02:37)

Dave,

I have no idea how you know all of this, but I guess you have been into skating again for a while. I am wondering how my setup compares to what is out there now? I am guessing the boots are way more comfortable. Would you say that my plate is good enough to stick with? I am sure my boot was good 14 years ago, but now I am reading about memory foam and all of these other things. I have a feeling that I don't need great skates, but I would love comfort. It is weird how ankle support is important with inlines, but not that important with quads. It seems with inlines you turn by leaning and with quads you put pressure and lean forward. I don't remember how it is on vert, but I am sure it will be fine no matter what I get. The carerra looks very comfortable. Knowing my situation with the plates I have, would you suggest getting a boot or would a package be a better deal? Although I have been easing into my skates, my feet are very wide and the toes are torn up. I don't remember ever having ankle problems or anything, but maybe that is something to worry about now. I do want to eventually start grinding, but I am fine just progressing to my old tricks. I always sucked at air and was always good at flips and layback airs. Knowing me, I will want to improve, but I have learned patience and just want to get my old tricks back. At this point, I may just buy some toe stops and laces. I used to use snyder toe stops, which I see are still around. I used to have to cut them down because they were to close to the ground. I have read that the new skates have differnt positions for the stoppers. How are the sure grip ones for $12? My immediate goal is to drop in and do a layback air and a millerflip. My long term goal is to do plate slides and possibly grinds. I did learn a few new tricks on my inline skates, which would work better on quads. I think sticking with my plate, trucks and wheels should get me started. I do need a new boot because it has holes and is very tight. Any suggestions? If I actually start skating on a regular basis, then I will want to set myself up. I never had anyone to help me out and never knew how to do it. I just skated with whatever I had. I used a lot of tape. lol I noticed that the boots are pretty expensive and the plates start at $35 and move up to $200. I am wondering where mine fit in. I like the weight and they have never broke. In all of my years skating, I broke a plate once. I am about 50 lbs heavier, but I don't really do many lip tricks. I found a great shop online that is near my work. I know you don't wear my type of skates, but any info would be great.

Thanks,

Robert

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They still make those boots.
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http://www.lowpriceskates.com/browseproducts/Riedell-125-RS-1000-Boots.HTML
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The Carrera boots are still available in stores but they are not being produced anymore.
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RollerSkater Dave: More Equpment Advice (28. Jun. 2006 03:17)
	Quad boots really haven't changed a lot. they're typically still made of leather (or nylon sometimes if you use hockey boots). Over in France there are a lot of skaters who use the well padded aggro inline boots. Your plates should stand up. I use Sure-Grip XK-4's, a similar plate, just less expensive. It stands up to my 250 pound mass (I was heavy into the weights when I was younger). I've broken a couple of kingpins, but that was from metal fatigue not jumps. If you want to eventually get into grinding you'll need to get into the double action (upper and lower cushion) style plates, like the Super X or Century. The 3 inch and 4 inch wide Sure-Grip trucks will fit on them. Lisa at rollergirl.ca would probably be the way to go as she is also a vert skater so she knows what a vert skater needs. For now some duct tape will at least give you some more time out of your old faithfuls while you look around.
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irene: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 01:21)
	: I can't say anything about low cut boots and regular plates for vert skating since in Europe no one uses such a set-up. The set-up used in Europe most of the time is some kind of base (full-metal, wood or a sandwich of wood and metal) with skateboard truck attached. : : It also struck me not to see any flip tricks when I was in the USA. In Europe, the Danish were doing really lots of flip in most unimaginable variations. ------------ The Carrera boot is great and holds up well under the wear and tear. It's supportive, yet has adequate lateral movement and there is very little break-in time needed. I thinks it's less expensive than the leather racing boots. My old skates were leather racers, but I like the Carrera more. More support and cushioning and longer lasting than racing boots. I think if you can mount your existing setup onto new boots and replace rubbers and pivots in your trucks, that's all you need for now. Maybe new wheels down the line for ramp riding and clean and lube your bearings. One Dane comes to mind when on the topic of flips....Rene Hulgreen (rollerskater, then inliner) I also was breaking grind bars (3 stacked) until Rollergirl produced some that work great. No more troubles there!
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Robert: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 03:37)
	Thanks for the input. Today I went to a roller rink and got new toe stops, which makes me happy. I also got the tools that I would need to change them as well as a skate key to change wheels and loosen trucks. My skates are starting to mold to my feet again so I may be ok for a while. The owner was really cool and recommended either what I have now, which is the RS 1000 125 or the Carerra. The Careera was only $80 so that might be a good pick. As soon as I get up to speed and find someone to take some pics, then I will share. I am so motivated to get back into skating. Robert : Quad boots really haven't changed a lot. they're typically still made of leather (or nylon sometimes if you use hockey boots). Over in France there are a lot of skaters who use the well padded aggro inline boots. Your plates should stand up. I use Sure-Grip XK-4's, a similar plate, just less expensive. It stands up to my 250 pound mass (I was heavy into the weights when I was younger). I've broken a couple of kingpins, but that was from metal fatigue not jumps. : : If you want to eventually get into grinding you'll need to get into the double action (upper and lower cushion) style plates, like the Super X or Century. The 3 inch and 4 inch wide Sure-Grip trucks will fit on them. Lisa at rollergirl.ca would probably be the way to go as she is also a vert skater so she knows what a vert skater needs. : : For now some duct tape will at least give you some more time out of your old faithfuls while you look around. :
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Bernhard: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 07:59)
	: : I can't say anything about low cut boots and regular plates for vert skating since in Europe no one uses such a set-up. The set-up used in Europe most of the time is some kind of base (full-metal, wood or a sandwich of wood and metal) with skateboard truck attached. : : : : It also struck me not to see any flip tricks when I was in the USA. In Europe, the Danish were doing really lots of flip in most unimaginable variations. : ------------ : The Carrera boot is great and holds up well under the wear and tear. It looks really nice. I'd really love to have this boot on a pair of street skates for me. : One Dane comes to mind when on the topic of flips....Rene Hulgreen (rollerskater, then inliner) He has even got a web site of his own now: http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/Rene_Hulgreen
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irene: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 22:12)
	Get these from Rollergirl. Best thing so far, unless you make your own. http://www.rollergirl.ca/usdcart/product_info.php/products_id/71 The old ones break (3 stacked, still broke) and are too narrow and didn't grind well. They are jump bars for rollerskate plates, not meant for grinding. I'd like to have plastic sliders for pool coping. The metal works fine for regular coping. ---------------------------------- : Irene, : : I like that cross bar or sliding bar. Whatever it is called. I have little cross bars that have molded to my plates. What are the ones on your skates? I would love to get something strong that will not give in. In my new journey I would like to start doing plate slides. Any advice?
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Bernhard: More Equpment Advice (28. Jun. 2006 23:20)
	I can't say anything about low cut boots and regular plates for vert skating since in Europe no one uses such a set-up. The set-up used in Europe most of the time is some kind of base (full-metal, wood or a sandwich of wood and metal) with skateboard truck attached. It also struck me not to see any flip tricks when I was in the USA. In Europe, the Danish were doing really lots of flip in most unimaginable variations.
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irene: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 01:29)
	Dave, Low cut boots work cuz the base is more stable, unlike inlines. Here are my old skates (plenty-o duct tape) about 10 years old. Duke rides his old setup. Riedell lowcut racing boots, narrow trucks...seem to work well for him. But he's just good.
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Robert: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 05:33)
	Irene, I like that cross bar or sliding bar. Whatever it is called. I have little cross bars that have molded to my plates. What are the ones on your skates? I would love to get something strong that will not give in. In my new journey I would like to start doing plate slides. Any advice? : Dave, : : Low cut boots work cuz the base is more stable, unlike inlines. : Here are my old skates (plenty-o duct tape) about 10 years old. : Duke rides his old setup. Riedell lowcut racing boots, narrow trucks...seem to work well for him. But he's just good.
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RollerSkater Dave: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 17:08)
	: : : One Dane comes to mind when on the topic of flips....Rene Hulgreen (rollerskater, then inliner) : : He has even got a web site of his own now: : http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/Rene_Hulgreen : I see he has the Air Attack video for sale. There goes the idea of making it available for free download.
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Bernhard: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 18:41)
	: I see he has the Air Attack video for sale. There goes the idea of making it available for free download. I didn't read about this on his site. Where did you read that?
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RollerSkater Dave: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 20:20)
	: : I see he has the Air Attack video for sale. There goes the idea of making it available for free download. : : I didn't read about this on his site. Where did you read that? Under the Old Skate Videos section. He also has copies of Eight Wheel Show for sale.
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Bernhard: More Equpment Advice (29. Jun. 2006 20:32)
	: : : I see he has the Air Attack video for sale. There goes the idea of making it available for free download. : : : : I didn't read about this on his site. Where did you read that? : : Under the Old Skate Videos section. He also has copies of Eight Wheel Show for sale. He does indeed offer them for sale there. But as far as I can see, he doesn't plan to make them available for download. On an other page he talks about a DVD compilation of those videos and about video clips he wants to put on the web site.
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